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		<title>By: sidharth</title>
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		<dc:creator>sidharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Habib.

Do you know about any good sites for Lovebirds please give you best one...

Sidharth, India</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Habib.</p>
<p>Do you know about any good sites for Lovebirds please give you best one&#8230;</p>
<p>Sidharth, India</p>
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		<title>By: Habib Ur Rehman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Habib Ur Rehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are welcome Sidharth.

Nothing is difficult in this world but you need to explore.

I recommend that you visit / join:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The Birdcare Company for supplements:
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;stdlink&quot; alt=&quot;The Birdcare Company&quot; title=&quot;The Birdcare Company&quot; href=&quot;http://www.birdcareco.com/English/TheBirdCareCompany/index&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.birdcareco.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Exhibition Budgerigar Forum for discussion &amp; experience:
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;stdlink&quot; alt=&quot;Exhibition Budgerigar Forum&quot; title=&quot;Exhibition Budgerigar Forum&quot; href=&quot;http://www.exhibitionbudgerigarforum.co.uk&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.exhibitionbudgerigarforum.co.uk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Exhibition Budgerigars group on Facebook:
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class=&quot;stdlink&quot; alt=&quot;Exhibition Budgerigars group on Facbook&quot; title=&quot;Exhibition Budgerigars group on Facbook&quot; href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/groups/ExhibitionBudgerigars/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.facebook.com/groups/ExhibitionBudgerigars/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;

You should also Google &quot;Avian Nursery Management Group&quot; &amp; &quot;Lovebirds Community Groups&quot;. 

You can easily find my contact number from the world helpline for any quick assistance:

&lt;a class=&quot;stdlink&quot; href=&quot;http://budgerigarsociety.com/helpline.asp&quot; title=&quot;BS Helpline&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.budgerigarsociety.com/helpline.asp&lt;/a&gt; 

Habib Ur Rehman, Pakistan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are welcome Sidharth.</p>
<p>Nothing is difficult in this world but you need to explore.</p>
<p>I recommend that you visit / join:</p>
<ul>
<li>The Birdcare Company for supplements:
<ul>
<li><a class="stdlink" alt="The Birdcare Company" title="The Birdcare Company" href="http://www.birdcareco.com/English/TheBirdCareCompany/index" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.birdcareco.com</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Exhibition Budgerigar Forum for discussion &amp; experience:
<ul>
<li><a class="stdlink" alt="Exhibition Budgerigar Forum" title="Exhibition Budgerigar Forum" href="http://www.exhibitionbudgerigarforum.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.exhibitionbudgerigarforum.co.uk</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Exhibition Budgerigars group on Facebook:
<ul>
<li><a class="stdlink" alt="Exhibition Budgerigars group on Facbook" title="Exhibition Budgerigars group on Facbook" href="http://www.facebook.com/groups/ExhibitionBudgerigars/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/groups/ExhibitionBudgerigars/</a></li>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You should also Google &#8220;Avian Nursery Management Group&#8221; &amp; &#8220;Lovebirds Community Groups&#8221;. </p>
<p>You can easily find my contact number from the world helpline for any quick assistance:</p>
<p><a class="stdlink" href="http://budgerigarsociety.com/helpline.asp" title="BS Helpline" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.budgerigarsociety.com/helpline.asp</a> </p>
<p>Habib Ur Rehman, Pakistan</p>
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		<title>By: sidharth</title>
		<link>http://www.budgerigar.co.uk/yeast-cold-liver-oil/comment-page-1/#comment-35921</link>
		<dc:creator>sidharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot Habib Ur Rehman.

Now i understand about CLO.

But what about multi-vitamins? How can I give that to my birds?

I think I am over feeding my birds. I provide regular seed in a full cup and fill it when it reduces, plus one feed per day of sprouted and rinsed seeds. 

A good number of chicks hatch, but only two or three or nothing survive.

Sidharth, India</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot Habib Ur Rehman.</p>
<p>Now i understand about CLO.</p>
<p>But what about multi-vitamins? How can I give that to my birds?</p>
<p>I think I am over feeding my birds. I provide regular seed in a full cup and fill it when it reduces, plus one feed per day of sprouted and rinsed seeds. </p>
<p>A good number of chicks hatch, but only two or three or nothing survive.</p>
<p>Sidharth, India</p>
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		<title>By: Habib Ur Rehman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Habib Ur Rehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REF: CLO for Lovebirds.

No, my answer Sidharth.

In winter season you can use on daily basis upon guideline as prescribed and do not use in hot summer. 

It&#039;s a dietary requirement but question - when? 

Understand the logic just behind the CLO offering and mostly all question are interlinked with breeding.

The birds love to breed throughout the year but it&#039;s important to consider the climate/weather change effects.

It could be the case that the love-birds are being given too much food, but it could also be the case that a certain ingredient, which is absolutely essential for a particular species of bird, is not being given.

Keep your Lovebirds happy.

Habib Ur Rehman, Pakistan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REF: CLO for Lovebirds.</p>
<p>No, my answer Sidharth.</p>
<p>In winter season you can use on daily basis upon guideline as prescribed and do not use in hot summer. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a dietary requirement but question &#8211; when? </p>
<p>Understand the logic just behind the CLO offering and mostly all question are interlinked with breeding.</p>
<p>The birds love to breed throughout the year but it&#8217;s important to consider the climate/weather change effects.</p>
<p>It could be the case that the love-birds are being given too much food, but it could also be the case that a certain ingredient, which is absolutely essential for a particular species of bird, is not being given.</p>
<p>Keep your Lovebirds happy.</p>
<p>Habib Ur Rehman, Pakistan</p>
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		<title>By: sidharth</title>
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		<dc:creator>sidharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Habib Ur Rehman
  
Thanks my friend it&#039;s great to hear from you.

I used it on sunflower seed because it&#039;s easier to use than on regular seed. 

I am new to lovebirds but not budgerigars. I have about 15 pairs of lovebirds (for about two years), 20 pairs of zebra finches, 2 pairs of cockatiels, and 2 pairs of spangle American budgerigars.

Thanks for your advice.

Due to my lack of knowledge about breeding lovebirds, I am losing lots of chicks - about 50% of my hatching chicks don&#039;t survive!

Is it enough to provide multi-vitamins for our birds only in the first week of each month?

Also, all the vitamin supplements are separate ones - can I give them each day after another for the first week of the month, and then only fresh water? Please guide me. 

Can anyone recommend any good multi-vitamins available in India please?

I am an MCA student, but even my studies are easier than studying about birds! Because the mistakes I make with the birds leads to their death.
 
Seeing my chicks dying is so bad.

Once more thanks for you advice.

Sidharth, India</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Habib Ur Rehman</p>
<p>Thanks my friend it&#8217;s great to hear from you.</p>
<p>I used it on sunflower seed because it&#8217;s easier to use than on regular seed. </p>
<p>I am new to lovebirds but not budgerigars. I have about 15 pairs of lovebirds (for about two years), 20 pairs of zebra finches, 2 pairs of cockatiels, and 2 pairs of spangle American budgerigars.</p>
<p>Thanks for your advice.</p>
<p>Due to my lack of knowledge about breeding lovebirds, I am losing lots of chicks &#8211; about 50% of my hatching chicks don&#8217;t survive!</p>
<p>Is it enough to provide multi-vitamins for our birds only in the first week of each month?</p>
<p>Also, all the vitamin supplements are separate ones &#8211; can I give them each day after another for the first week of the month, and then only fresh water? Please guide me. </p>
<p>Can anyone recommend any good multi-vitamins available in India please?</p>
<p>I am an MCA student, but even my studies are easier than studying about birds! Because the mistakes I make with the birds leads to their death.</p>
<p>Seeing my chicks dying is so bad.</p>
<p>Once more thanks for you advice.</p>
<p>Sidharth, India</p>
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		<title>By: sidharth</title>
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		<dc:creator>sidharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I use the CLO coated seed throughout the year or not?

Also tell me how many days can I use the CLO coated seed.

Thanks,
Sidharth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I use the CLO coated seed throughout the year or not?</p>
<p>Also tell me how many days can I use the CLO coated seed.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Sidharth</p>
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		<title>By: Habib Ur Rehman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Habib Ur Rehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 07:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sidharth 

Yes, you can and ratio will be the same as explained by Gerald, but do not forget to clean the seed mix before mixing and better to offer on daily basis as fresh moreover not don&#039;t give them in the hot summer.

Keep one thing in mind friend, prepare less and offer in small quantity that will be best and easy to understand.

We are breeding our bird in cage and that&#039;s required balanced diet.

Thank you very much, feel free to ask.

Habib Ur Rehman, Pakistan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sidharth </p>
<p>Yes, you can and ratio will be the same as explained by Gerald, but do not forget to clean the seed mix before mixing and better to offer on daily basis as fresh moreover not don&#8217;t give them in the hot summer.</p>
<p>Keep one thing in mind friend, prepare less and offer in small quantity that will be best and easy to understand.</p>
<p>We are breeding our bird in cage and that&#8217;s required balanced diet.</p>
<p>Thank you very much, feel free to ask.</p>
<p>Habib Ur Rehman, Pakistan</p>
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		<title>By: sidharth</title>
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		<dc:creator>sidharth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I am from India can i use CLO for lovebirds.

What is the expiry time for the CLO coated seed - when should it be removed after coated with CLO?

Thanks,
sidharth, India</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I am from India can i use CLO for lovebirds.</p>
<p>What is the expiry time for the CLO coated seed &#8211; when should it be removed after coated with CLO?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
sidharth, India</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald S Binks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald S Binks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Leeia,
 
A good question, and one which worries many fanciers who use cod liver oil for its vitamin A &amp; D content as well as its high iodine factor. 
 
Any fancier who wants a perfect source of the above vitamins is well advised to consider using cod liver oil, which in my case is mixed in with a seed mixture daily at the rate of 5 mls to 6 kilos for about two minutes, before it is offered to the stock 24 hours later.

Ceratinly cod liver oil (CLO) will become rancid after a period - unlike a cod liver oil emulsion (e.g. Scott&#039;s Emulsion) which deterioriates very rapidly. In both cases, once the new bottle is opened, airborne bacteria start to begin the process of rancidity - which of course we do not want.

However, it was proven many years ago, in an article I received when owner of Budgerigar World Magazine, that CLO-coated grain is quickly absorbed through the husk into the kernel. Thus rancidity is mainly confined to the exposed husk surface where, of course, it becomes shucked by our birds and is discarded. 
 
Your question relates to how long before coated CLO seed grains become a hazard? That, in a temperate climate, is about a week, but in a hot climate you can halve that time. The answer, therefore, is to be clean at all times about removing scattered, but still full, seed grain, that has been lying about for a longish period.

As a great advocate of its usage I do not find any serious problems from using CLO and I would go as far as to say that I cannot breed the numbers of birds that I do without its use.

90% of the questions I get asked from breeders that cannot breed birds always comes down to a lack of vitamin A &amp; D. Care should be taken that the dosage per day, throughout the year, is not overdone. Twice as much CLO is not twice as good. Indeed it is harmful, as both vitamins are not excreted and are stored in the liver - which can lead to very difficult diagnostic problems in a sick bird.

Finally remember halibut liver oil and wheat germ oils are so rich in International Units (by which fish oils are graded), that similar rates of dosage can be quickly fatal. CLO is safe to use and should only be bought in the smallest bottles available for obvious reasons. Stocks should be kept in the fridge until ready to be opened.

Regards,
Gerald</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Leeia,</p>
<p>A good question, and one which worries many fanciers who use cod liver oil for its vitamin A &amp; D content as well as its high iodine factor. </p>
<p>Any fancier who wants a perfect source of the above vitamins is well advised to consider using cod liver oil, which in my case is mixed in with a seed mixture daily at the rate of 5 mls to 6 kilos for about two minutes, before it is offered to the stock 24 hours later.</p>
<p>Ceratinly cod liver oil (CLO) will become rancid after a period &#8211; unlike a cod liver oil emulsion (e.g. Scott&#8217;s Emulsion) which deterioriates very rapidly. In both cases, once the new bottle is opened, airborne bacteria start to begin the process of rancidity &#8211; which of course we do not want.</p>
<p>However, it was proven many years ago, in an article I received when owner of Budgerigar World Magazine, that CLO-coated grain is quickly absorbed through the husk into the kernel. Thus rancidity is mainly confined to the exposed husk surface where, of course, it becomes shucked by our birds and is discarded. </p>
<p>Your question relates to how long before coated CLO seed grains become a hazard? That, in a temperate climate, is about a week, but in a hot climate you can halve that time. The answer, therefore, is to be clean at all times about removing scattered, but still full, seed grain, that has been lying about for a longish period.</p>
<p>As a great advocate of its usage I do not find any serious problems from using CLO and I would go as far as to say that I cannot breed the numbers of birds that I do without its use.</p>
<p>90% of the questions I get asked from breeders that cannot breed birds always comes down to a lack of vitamin A &amp; D. Care should be taken that the dosage per day, throughout the year, is not overdone. Twice as much CLO is not twice as good. Indeed it is harmful, as both vitamins are not excreted and are stored in the liver &#8211; which can lead to very difficult diagnostic problems in a sick bird.</p>
<p>Finally remember halibut liver oil and wheat germ oils are so rich in International Units (by which fish oils are graded), that similar rates of dosage can be quickly fatal. CLO is safe to use and should only be bought in the smallest bottles available for obvious reasons. Stocks should be kept in the fridge until ready to be opened.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Gerald</p>
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		<title>By: Leeia Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leeia Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 06:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Gerald,

I was wondering about cod liver oil and it going rancid.
 
How long can it be in the seed safely before the seed can start to go off?

Many thanks 
Leeia Fox
Australia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Gerald,</p>
<p>I was wondering about cod liver oil and it going rancid.</p>
<p>How long can it be in the seed safely before the seed can start to go off?</p>
<p>Many thanks<br />
Leeia Fox<br />
Australia</p>
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